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Old jhon won this one

wow, both projects are so beautiful!

The best tool is the one you can afford to have. With out tools you can beg, borrow, or own all you have is a bunch of UFO’s aka un- finished objects. I believe is the moto of this Channel, so I am subscribing 👍

This is great. The idea of cutting the sides at the same time to ensure they're identical is brilliant!

I like the fancy round table, but its kind of small. The pallet coffee table not quite as fancy, but more useful to my mind. I'd happily own either one.

Tie..I appreciate both builds..

Thank you SO MUCH for this video. What an excellently thorough explanation!! I’m stunned. I haven’t seen a YT video THIS good in a long time. Funny, too! Thanks so so so so much.

need more of these John Vs John please!! you guys are an awesome duo and really inspiring! Thanks very much for the amazing content!

More of a Rhombus than a parallelagram 😊

It's amazing who ever invented the safe guard .yeah I was kinda scared to use one. Table saws They seem dangerous but I just Recently started learning how to use one there very loud hopefully it don't bothered the neighbors

In U.K. its illegal to remove crown guard 🤔 cross cutting on rip saw can be dangerous be careful guys 👍

Old John won.

Did you just recycle somebody else's video without adding any meaningful content?

Chainmail fixes all of these issues

Old guys win automatically but both are equally awesome

"Be something we've never done before" *Proceeds to copy an idea from his chairs*

hello - why not exhaust dust collection to outside the shop? .... is there a reason people just don't do that?

I built a really nice dresser for my daughter with glue and staples. Still works fine today 3yrs later so far. I routed in the shelves on one side and the whole bottom so she has a couple cubby shelves on the side of her dresser. I built it out of beach wood.

Lmao fuck. Just made a walk in closet set and screwed them suckers in like the thumbnail pic 😂😅

Why would you use a thumbnail image that has the words Most Dangerous with an arrow pointing at a Microjig Gripper (which could easily be perceived as saying that it is the Gripper that is the most dangerous), and then say in the video that same Gripper is your favorite push block? Even if you Try to claim that you were only pointing at the blade gouge on the Gripper, and not the Gripper itself, wouldn't that thumbnail still be considered Spam or Misleading, when any image of an actual kickback would be the only logical and accurate image to show for a video that is entirely About Kickbacks, and how to prevent them (in part By Using The Exact Tool that your thumbnail has an arrow pointing towards saying Most Dangerous)?? And, wouldn't having a more "subject accurate" image, be less likely to cause the potential loss of sales for Microjig when newbie woodworkers are looking for a good push block and they come across your thumbnail image of a Microjig Gripper with an arrow pointing at it with large words that say "Most Dangerous!!"?? Regardless of, "technically" IF someone actually does watch the video after they saw the easily misleading thumbnail, they would hear you say that it wasn't the Gripper itself that you were calling Most Dangerous, because many will only see the misleading image Without hearing the correction or explanation within the video, so they are only left with a negative impression of a Good safety product. ? Doing something that can potentially hurt someone else's company (when you actually like and use their products), to provoke more views for your own business? Is that Ethical, or negligent? Otherwise the video content itself is actually very good and informative. It's a shame that you didn't use the same standard of informative and accurate for the thumbnail, as you did for the video content. Hopefully that will change. Have a great day.

They both win much more than we realize....

Pay no attention to useless criticism...you have a lot of good points that are of benefit to amateur woodworkers like me. There is a big difference between criticism and critical thinking...it sounds like you bruised a couple of egos but you do in fact present reasonable evidence along with what you are presenting. If someone is angry about whether it's lumber vs timber vs wood, they shouldn't be using power tools. Thanks for an excellent tutorial!

My skil table saw is actually pretty top notch. It's a dumbed down dewalt

Older John!

AONB always one never both that’s what my shop teacher taught me way back in high school referring to the miter gauge and rip fence. It’s kept me safe for many moons .

liked and subbed. you do great work and the old man is a cool dude. more vids like this

Hello, weekend builder here. I believe I'm going to give the ceramic coating a go as well and as well, on my 34 year old, typical Amish Oak dining table. With four kids, now all grown and gone, it is well over due to refinish the table. Leaning towards one of the two you mentioned, I prefer that look as well though not sure how much it will show on the lighter Oak. Anyway, I see you have Rubio in the video and you mention reusing Osmo on the table. Do you have a preference of one over the other, does the wood used in the project affect that choice? I believe one or both also have tinted version. I go down the rabbit holes watching and learning about products then something else needs fixed or built and before I know it, it's been a couple months and can't remember exactly what information I had gathered. Thanks

Another excellent vid pal. Keep em coming 🍺🍿

Worth a subscribe. Been working on a 4x8 trailer (purpose of retrofitting kayak rack, bike holders, etc for outdoor activities) from ground up and have been engineering my way through cutting various pieces and using composite decking as my rails. Yes, you read that correct and found a way to reinforce the ends by making about 130 rectangular dowels and hammering them into the ends. Also tested and found out you can stain them as I was told by many sources you can't. Anyway, I absolutely loved this video as it shows you don't need all the latest gadgets to complete something you want to do. I have had so much fun with my project and enjoy the process. Great to see two different approaches having fun and respect for the craft.

Old John did a great job but voting for him because he went the simpler route is just silly. Young John get my vote because he was grinding hard til the clock ran out and it really shows. The table might be smaller but looks flawless. You can find multiple uses for both, so size really isn't a factor.

I have a Walabot, and it's accurate in showing where studs, electrical conduits, and water lines are.

You mention (around the 11:20 mark) that Carbon Method meets California Prop 65 and passed food safe testing, but I can not find any supporting material for this claim. Do you happen to have any?

I don't generally buy into hype about what new product is on the market or how it will change my life. That being said, I ordered a bunch with the new backer pad and these 3M sanding discs changed my life in the woodworking world! They are by far the best I have ever used and will continue to use them. And that's with my Ryobi 5 inch random orbit sander. I will be upgrading my sander to a better model now as well. I really appreciate reviews based on facts and truth that can be reproduced. Y'all take care, work safe and keep all your fingers.

🏆 for best seamless insertion of sponsored post info that I a) listened to without skipping and b) was information I can benefit from especially given how it was couched in your own relevant experience. Finally!!! A woodworking video that is actually accessible. I plan to make some built ins for the livingroom and definitely need all the tips for squaring and measuring that you showed here. Thank you.

mix the oil and wax yourself with terpentine

Basic summary i gathered was yeah the science behind those tips has truth behind it but go for whats fun and meets your skill level

How do you use Star Wars characters in your merchandise you sell?

Skil table saws are legit. Wtf you talking about

This girlthe other day at the bakery. The boss says, "Hey did you get that done?" She says, "I remembered that I forgot to do it, give me some credit for remembering I forgot" if that isnt the dumbest thing ive heard this year, idk

i had a feeling odies wasnt low on VOCs, i cant fucking stand how strong it smells its unbearable

0:48 “And if your store’s panel saw has been out of commission for about 18 months >like that ice cream machine at McDonald’s that’s never working<“ 😂 Every damn time, however yesterday it was the smoothie machine. FYI: The word on the street is that it’s not really broken; the employees are just too lazy to clean it. 😠

Well I don't believe that learning beginner basic joints is something wrong. My grandpa was joiner/carpenter and remember as kid when he lernt me and my brother it was actually using hand tools and basic joints. I still have my first stool I made using mortise and tenon joints with hand saw, hand drill and chielses at age of 8. Where the hell you wanna practice joints if not on simple starting projects? It's like going to sailing course or being in navy and instead of learning basic knots you would say to one they they can use duck tape, carabinier etc.

Don't gatekeep, people don't always have a choice so let's not shit on them trying to get into the hobby with what they can get their hands on.

You see one spending money and the other not.

interesting vid. and didn't know that Jeffrey Donovan got into the sawmill business. Tell him i'm a big fan of his work when you see him again

why cant you just put timber through a thicknesser on its side to act as a jointer

I've never seen either of you before but I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Thanks for making real, genuine, friendly content. Although I don't build or have any interest in woodworking personally, I will watch this whole series if it becomes one.

Reliable, proven techniques along with a great positive attitude. Nicely done. Thank you for supporting the future generations of woodworkers.

I don't know if I would call brand stuff "100% fiction", but it is mostly fiction. I built my first project, a 6'x6'x6' chicken coop, about twelve years ago. I had no tools so I bought a Ryobi drill/impact bundle because I saw my dad use them before and it was only $99. I have now used that drill to also build a 20x40 pole barn, gut and remodel a 1000sqft house, and build a nice 8x16 shed. Never had any problems with it. Using original battery too. That being said, it definitely isn't as strong as newer drills and the battery amp hours are terrible at 1.5). I borrowed a friends Ryobi skill saw and it struggled to cut 2x4s. I would say there are tiers though. Just like in cameras, computers, and other products, there are consumer grade, "prosumer" grade, and professional. Harbor Freight and arguably Ryobi fall into consumer grade, Dewault prosumer, and things like Snap On and Hilti for pros. I ALWAYS recommend people starting at the middle grade stuff. Dewault might not be as "good" has SnapOn but it is leagues better than some $20 Chinese drill. For what its worth, I think most people agree Makita and Milwaukee are the two best prosumer brands out there, and many pros use them too. I myself decided to go Makita starting last year and like you said, it was for none power tools (they have a nice dual battery backpack vacuum cleaner) but at the last minute switched to Milwaukee because HD had a 12piece combo with three batteries on sale for $499. Furthermore Makita doesn't have a pex expansion tool but Milkwaukee does, and since I'm about to start building my house next week, a pex expansion tool seemed more important than a vacuum.

paralellagram is when all sides are equalateral , since the rough ends are not trimmed, they are not equal. so its a trapezoid, a 'trap'